Stop demonizing sovereignists, SSJB says

Posted By: Richard Deschamps · 9/6/2012 5:41:00 PM

Montreal's St. Jean Baptiste Society has a message for anglos and anglo media following the Metropolis shooting: stop demonizing separatists and those looking to defend the French language.

The Society's president, Mario Beaulieu, issued a statement on the shooting, and while they're calling it an 'isolated act of folly', it nonetheless has a socio-political impact.

"We appeal to the English-Canadian and English Quebec media for moderation," he writes. "They've increased accusations of xenophobia and all sorts of slanderous insinuations toward sovereignists or defenders of French."

He also criticizes anglophone media and commentators for accusing separatists and French-language defenders as xenophobic, intolerant radicals, saying it's a profoundly unjust portrayal.

One of those commentators, CJAD's own Tommy Schnurmacher, says they have every right to do just that.

"Blaming the media for what happened is absolutely absurd," Tommy says. "We have a right to describe what we see in the terms that we see it."

But Tommy does say, however, that comparing French-language defenders to Nazis and other murderous dictators, like some members of the public do, is over the top.

Beaulieu adds their vision of an inclusive society is no less inclusive than the so-called 'Canadian' vision, and points out that Quebec's treatment of linguistic minorities is more generous than it is in the rest of the country.

Photo: via Société St-Jean-Baptiste de Montréal

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  1. danielt17 posted on 09/06/2012 02:58 PM
    "Quebec's treatment of linguistic minorities is more generous than it is in the rest of the country"

    These guys have lost their marbles. It is kind of pathetic how with so much going on in the world, these people have not worked out their existential issues. Get a grip people, there is a world outside of Quebec.
    1. john posted on 09/06/2012 04:24 PM
      @danielt17 Sooo true, but so sad , they will NEVER get it.
  2. English Quebecois posted on 09/06/2012 03:33 PM
    Either they are morons (in the literal medical sense) or just plain stupid. There is a very well documented history of intolerance, xenophobia and plain anti-semitism on the part of these asses who call themselves "defenders of French". For the English to ignore the reality would require a mass shot of amnesia and more than likely a frontal lobotomy for each member of the community. The fact that these bozos rally to the standard of men like Pariseau who very directly cast aspersions and insults on minority communities and disrepected OUR rights to democracy prove the lie and is a clear statement of what these separatists really are.
  3. H.vandenengh posted on 09/06/2012 03:49 PM
    This is a text book case of the pot calling the kettle black.
  4. Josiey posted on 09/06/2012 04:04 PM
    It isn't true that Quebec's treatment of linguistic minorities is more generous than the rest of Canada. Does the rest of Canada measure the size of french words on a sign or prevent someone from putting up a french sign? Do they prevent anyone from going to the school of their choice? All Employees of the Federal government in Ottawa have to speak French and English. What about New Brunswick? The English ,Irish, Scots, Italians etc. and French have made Quebec what it is today. When the English defeated the french in 1759 the English and French have lived together. What about the Native people who were here before the French and English took over their land? who is protecting their language? Are they being treated any better than in the rest of Canada?
    1. lynn posted on 09/09/2012 12:41 PM
      @Josiey Better yet, let's look at Canada as a whole, is Quebec Francophones not the BEST treated minority in the world?!
  5. Mike posted on 09/06/2012 04:04 PM
    Unilingual french separatists closing down English schools, forcing us to speak French at work, making sure the French writing is bigger than the English, refusing to serve us in English, are accusing us of calling them xenophobes? Well, at least they got one thing right.
    1. richard posted on 09/13/2012 10:20 AM
      @Mike Not only do they refuse to serve us in English....its the law
  6. We are not the "NOUS" posted on 09/06/2012 04:05 PM
    No kippas, no hijabs, no turbans, but a crucifix on the wall is OK... they are not racists... they are just the "nous" that we will never be.
    I do not resist their desire to display their symbols... why should they limit my use of symbols, haberdashery or religious jewelry - regardless of wether my employer is the government or not?
    Simple - they are the "nous", and we are all, "les autres".
    "NOUS" is non-inclusive - it is just plain exclusionary. Pointe Finale!
  7. Michael_S posted on 09/06/2012 04:06 PM
    The charges of xenophobia and racism have a basis in fact. I would like to see if the Société St. Jean Baptiste would like to refute the following

    1)When Mayor Jean Tremblay criticized the right of Djemila Benhabib to express her views, it was for being an immigrant with an unpronounceable name. He was supported by the people in the Saguenay. Where was the refutation of the SSJB.

    2)When it is acceptable to members of the PQ that a candidate with an english accent when speaking french, should not be allowed to run for office. Where was the support for anglophones an alophones candidates by the SSJB.

    3) When secularism is defined as no religous symbols except our own.

    The inclusiveness of the society envisioned by the Société is where they include everyone who thinks like them.

    As for the generous treatment of linguistic minorities in Québec, Canad does not have the equivalent of Bill 101 and does not limit the right of people to work in their own language or to have the right to go to school in their own language.
  8. LMAO posted on 09/06/2012 04:09 PM
    Quebec is the only place in Canada where this type of racism is accepted under the guise of linguistic protection. We have troops protecting foreigners overseas maybe they should be shipped home and stationed here in Quebec instead.
    Mario Beaulieu and Madame Marois would be arrested and charged with racism and inciting hate in most other western countries, maybe it's time the Harper government grew a pair and started to protect Canadians living here in Quebec from these racist bullies. How much longer will the rest of Canada turn a blind eye to the abuse poured on their own fellow countrymen.
  9. H.van den Engh posted on 09/06/2012 04:11 PM
    This is a textbook case of the pot calling the kettle black.
  10. Jo posted on 09/06/2012 04:57 PM
    It isn't the English media that caused this crazy guy to shoot innocent people! What the English media reported was all true, but normal English people are not going to go and kill because THEY are being demonized by the radicals in Quebec. Do you think that the policies the PQ wants to enforce like only letting people who LIVE in french (not just speak it) to become citizens of Quebec, and not letting people wear their religious symbols unless it is a cross! Making business owners (especially small ones) have to be humiliated and bow down to the OQLF. All of this makes someone feel like they are second class or no class in their own Province! I heard the St-Jean-Baptist Societe is saying that the English media is inciting hatred towards the french,( not true) Look in the mirror people!!!!
  11. THIRD CLASS CITIZEN posted on 09/06/2012 05:54 PM
    "Quebec's treatment of linguistic minorities is more generous than it is in the rest of the country"

    Is he serious? Does he know that most minorities do have schools etc... like the French in Canada. They have all the same things though they do not have 7 million people around then trying to shove a language down their throats, stopping them from being promoted at work, stopping them from having good jobs etc.

    Maybe he should look up xenophobic, intolerant radicals in the dictionary. If that does not work, well look in the mirror boy.

    If you don't like to be called those things, BE NICE !
  12. Murray posted on 09/06/2012 06:00 PM
    I was treated to lunch (coincidental) on my 50th b-day by the SSJB. The Prez (Guy Bouthilier) at the time was a very refined man who made some changes in history to suit his needs but I had been forewarned.

    Considering the fact that one can deal with the Canadian govt in either French or English, while quite often one may only deal in French with the QC govt, I would have to say that Beaulieu is incorrect.
  13. Joe posted on 09/06/2012 06:36 PM
    Its time for our dear Pauline to step up and tell the most bigoted hard liners in he clan to calm the rhetoric down against the enemy. What were her word during he speech. "Such promises had created consternation among Anglos, especially in the business community. Some had mused about leaving Quebec if Marois won.

    But Marois got applause Tuesday night from her troops when she vowed that English rights would be protected.

    “I want us to shape together our common future,” the new leader of the minority government told the crowd. She delivered the message in English, a rare choice for a PQ leader addressing a partisan audience." So is it time to include us or not
    we the enemy will await a response from the leader of all Quebecer's.....lol
    1. garvin posted on 09/12/2012 01:28 PM
      @Joe There is no such thing as Anglo rights in Quebec......only privilidges "extended to us" from the Federal Constitution of the Land because to not do so violates the constitution of Canada and usually the rights freedom of expression in Canada and her provinces and territories. Eg.) Right to get medical care, Rights to an education, rights to be informed under canada's 2 Official Languages that covers the media, and Due Process under the law. The separatist never conceived a society where we would exist on the same level as them in quebec.
  14. steve posted on 09/06/2012 07:39 PM
    Mabey the demonizing of Anglos and the English language , by the SJBS has something to do with it.What goes around , comes around. The thinly disguised hatered and racism in the name of protection of the French language and culture, fools no one. Except mabey themselves.
  15. FRED posted on 09/06/2012 08:29 PM
    I would like to comment how racist the OLF is and they will always be racist and will never understand or respect anyone else besides themselves. Its always about FRENCH language and about losing their French language...try learning another language, stop being so close minded and stop wasting our tax paying dollars on your stupidity, because the only reason there is an OLF is because you need a job! Stop wasting our money!. You the OLF created this mess with your one way thinking, your are racist and you show it! Because of the OLF you took our rights away in choosing which school and how we live our lives....you should be ashamed of yourselves in thinking you could control us. Its our choice NOT yours! There should be no more OLF...we don't need division anymore and stop blaming the anglos, because there is no separation and even to think about separation for a language just shows how smart they are. Whose to say thing will be better, knowing the world would know Quebec separated because of a language...what a joke! Chose down the OLF we don't need separatist group people screwing with the people in the beautiful province. If this is a democratic society then why are we SO CONTROLLED!!!
  16. rosato1954 posted on 09/06/2012 09:25 PM
    The SSJB and other like minded organizations are responsible for the huge buildup of Toronto, the economic stagnation of Montreal, the exodus of many talented Quebecers, and for keeping a large number of French Canadians ( mainly outside Montreal and Laval ) in linguistic ignorance, where they are unable to purchase a pair of shoes in the US,.
  17. lennard maillet posted on 09/06/2012 10:20 PM
    While I might agree that the current level of anti-anglo, anti-ethnic hatred shown by the
    ssjb, pq etc might pale in comparison with the measures taken by the nazis 1933-45,
    the beginnings are there for all to see. "We were conquered, we were treated as
    inferiors, certain segments of our society exploited us! As the great grandson of an
    Acadian who was expelled, and came back to Canada and who managed to raise a
    family and prosper in what is probably the most neglected part of our country, and who
    is bilingual, I have only contempt for small-minded bigots that cannot let the past go, and
    like bullies everywhere, can only achieve self-redemption by oppressing others. I saw enough of that serving in Bosnia. They might not be nazis yet Mr Schnurmacher, but a great many jews and many others paid a heavy price for wishful thinking.
  18. Nick Cowen posted on 09/07/2012 12:46 AM
    I would like to thank CJAD for the coverage of the Quebec political race. Tensions tend to increase during the period of Quebec elections and CJAD 800 was in the forefront for the English community providing the news in a timely manor. Thank you.

    Nick Cowen
    Assistant Director of the Montreal Canada Day Parade
  19. iLL posted on 09/07/2012 12:57 AM
    Hey guys .. I heard that Ontario is a great place for you ..the
  20. WILLinMTL posted on 09/07/2012 05:17 AM
    Société St-Jean-Raciste is more like it !

    The Quebec gov't is holding down their citizens with this archaec one language policy. Get over it.
  21. maoworks2 posted on 09/07/2012 08:16 AM
    What Load Of Crap The French Been Craping On Us For Years And Nobody Calls Them Out Up Yours !!
  22. sam posted on 09/07/2012 12:16 PM
    Quebec is a predominantly French Province. We know this and as anglos living here. We do respect it.
    But we have to draw the line when we are told to flirt in french and speak french in the parks and streets and that our children will be gently reminded in school to speak french. Enough is Enough. If they think they are some cool gentle group they are slightly deranged. I do not think its fair that living in CANADA.. they don't learn english and we are forced to obey their rules. Like it or not there is a huge anglo population living here and hopefully we won't be like the groups from the 70's and get bullied out of here over thier language issues.
    It's sad that with over crowding hospitals,bridges falling apart, inadequate education their main focus is language issues. This is who you voted in Quebec. Well done.
    PS.. there's a WHOLE GLOBE thing happening outside of this province that speaks languages other then French.. there is no harm in being bilingual or better.
  23. Paul posted on 09/07/2012 05:41 PM
    These xenophobes actually believe that attacking the English language is the same as protecting the French language. That's why they get confused when people point out the obvious. If the xenophobic shoe fits, then wear it.
  24. WILLinMTL posted on 09/07/2012 07:05 PM
    I just went on SSJB website out of curiosity.
    On their homepage alone, there are 9 mentions of "medias anglophone" and 14 mentions total of "anglophone".
    In total there are 6 top stories blaming English media for their problems.
    They sure read a lot of English. Why don't they just let us speak it, and leave us alone with anti-English laws ?
    Their claims are false anyway. There are plenty of French schools outside of Quebec all over Canada. And French is not ILLEGAL outside of Quebec like English is inside Quebec !

    In the words of Rodney King....can't we all get along ?
    1. Garvin posted on 09/12/2012 01:39 PM
      @WILLinMTL In the words of Martin Luther King Jr who fought bigots like the SSJB, "An Injustice here, is an Injustice everywhere". If there are good Francophones(first class citizens) in Quebec, then they need to stand up and speak truth to the powers of hate and division here in Quebec. Everybody knows who they are.
  25. joe slim posted on 09/07/2012 07:29 PM
    J'ai pas le tant d'aprendre l'anglais, is what they say like its an infectious disease. I really believe that they are still hellbent on revenge for there past situation in quebec, mainly in Montreal. Look the world has always done business in English for very long time. if you were to lazy to learn English its not our fault its yours, we learned how to speak french what more do you want, Do you want us to leave so you could do business among yourselves "sorry more like bartering" cuz there would be no more money in the province.
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