Assault weapon seized from chalet

Posted By: Richard Deschamps · 1/15/2013 3:37:00 PM


An interesting find for police as they followed up on a home invasion in the Ste-Dorothee district of Laval last night.

Police found out that the victim was a 51-year-old man who's been in trouble with the law before on various drug charges.

On the scene, they found small quantities of crack and cocaine, as well as an unregistered hunting rifle.

A search of a rented chalet in Lachute also turned up another weapon, a fully-loaded M4 assault rifle.

Laval police are trying to find out more about the gun, and whether it may have been shown to anyone or used on anyone.

They're also waiting to speak to the victim about it. He remains in hospital after taking a blow to the head with a metal bar during last night's robbery.

Photo: Laval police

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  1. Newsblaster posted on 01/15/2013 08:04 PM
    That is just a regular AR based single shot semi-automatic rifle from what I can see. Also, the magazines are pinned at 5 rounds which makes them legal. That is NOT a machine gun because it is not fully automatic. Someone needs to do their homework a little better.
  2. George from Montreal posted on 01/15/2013 08:15 PM
    Richard, I'm confused.

    You say it was a "fully loaded" machine gun (more on that in a sec...), then at the end you say "assault rifle". Which of the 2 illegal weapons was it? Machine guns and Assault rifles have been illegal in Canada since 1984.

    If it was a semi automatic M4 - legal in Canada and no different than a semi auto deer gun or shot gun - it is not a "machine gun" nor an "assault rifle". By definition.

    In the 21st centure, with Google and Wikipedia so pervasive, there is no excuse for not fact checking.

    The looks of a semi auto rifle can change (you can have wood or black plastic on any rifle or shot gun you want), but that doesn't make it an "assault rifle". Only the military have those. That's like calling a Hyundai Tiburon a sports car simply because it has a spoiler on the back. Cosmetics do not increase anything.

    ....and just what do you mean "fully loaded"? As in loaded with ammunition or that it had accessories on it? (none of which change the functioning, btw)

    Thanks for making me and the internet forums laugh....
  3. reason911 posted on 01/15/2013 08:53 PM
    Where do I start? 1st the magazines clips) are pinned. So each of them can only hold five rounds (bullets).

    2nd, that rifle is a semi automatic. Meaning that it fires one round (bullet) for every squeeze of the trigger.

    What ever happened to Journalist doing research? Investigative journalism has been replaced by a writing style more worthy of being printed in the National Inquirer.
  4. Bill posted on 01/15/2013 09:59 PM
    Strange a criminal would have an automatic weapon but be using pmags pinned to 5 rounds as is law in Canada.
  5. Thomas posted on 01/15/2013 09:59 PM
    *Yawn* Trying to conflate another 5 round "sinister/black" rifle with a impossible-to-get-legally fully automatic rifle. And even then, this would be a restricted/prohibited model that would still be registered along with handguns. Amazing that a criminal could be linked with firearms. Trying to pin this one on gun owners, while the media is in a frenzy, airing US coverage when Canadians don't comply? Distgusting, trying to create a controversey where there's none. Lovely.
  6. thomas posted on 01/15/2013 11:42 PM
    The reporter is an idiot. It's not a "machine gun" it's an ar-15. Misinformation at its finest to instill fear among the non-gun savy public. You should be ashamed to call yourself a news source
  7. Jwillmoore posted on 01/16/2013 09:29 AM
    It is clear that this is a semi auto with 5 round pinned mag. It is not a machine gun nor does it look loaded. It took 3 of you to write an article that has almost no accurate information whatsoever. Why are you spreading misinformation? Is it deliberate or ignorance?

    I am assuming ignorance.

    May I suggest you hire a consultant to avoid making mistakes or go follow a safety course just to get some information about firearm and firearm safety before you make more of a nuisance of yourselves.

    You guys are not even earning your over inflated salaries when you write such misinformation to a trusting general public.
  8. Bill posted on 01/16/2013 10:56 AM
    I love how this being on a Canadian site all the comments clearly state it is not an assault rifle or machine gun and that the mags are pinned. If this were on cnn or fox's site there would instantly be a slue of comment saying "that there's one of them baby killing evil army guns withe the high cap clip"
  9. Chris Montreal posted on 01/16/2013 11:44 AM
    Funny I own one that looks just like that. Except my is a 9mm lol . Misinformed fools So I’m curious if the hunting rifle was not registered is that not a crime ? or is it the fact that anyone with a valid PAL could just drive to Ontario and buy a hunting rifle and bring it back to Montreal. Pauline you need to build a wall around us to stop the illegal import of firearms into Montreal from the rest of Canada
  10. Really? posted on 01/16/2013 04:05 PM
    Ummm..... Ok you updated the headline so that it no longer says "machine gun", and replaced it with "assault weapon".

    That is a run of the mill AR-15 semi-automatic rifle with legally pinned magazines. Some black plastic does make it a "super deadly military baby killing assault machine gun". It's a pretty standard rifle. Perhaps if it was covered in wood it would be less offensive to people who don't know anything about rifles.

    What ever happened to journalistic integrity?
  11. Chris posted on 01/17/2013 12:34 AM
    You don't have to register rifles any more unless you live here ... and how are you going to stop people from bringing legal guns illegally into Quebec , this is the part that makes me chuckle the most about this Province , if the Feds win their case against Quebec , and they have to start over , how many people are they expecting to abide by their rules and re register ... its stupid. Open borders , that are full of holes ,they can't even control the illegal ones that gangs and criminals use ,let alone the non registered legal ones from other provinces ... common now , who ever thought of this is not to bright.
  12. Shady posted on 01/17/2013 12:48 AM
    @Thomas. There's no need to open your little rant by calling the reporter an idiot. Also, you aren't all that well informed yourself. The rifle pictured is in fact an M4. The fact that the "AR-15" has been in the news lately, has brought people (like you) to believe that every gun that looks like this is an AR-15.
    1. Jon posted on 01/17/2013 03:22 PM
      @Shady @Chris. How can you tell its an M4. I sure cant make out an auto sear pin nor any other of the small details distinguishing an AR-15 from an M4. Also why would someone have a full auto m4 and only have pinned 5 round magazines. It doesnt makes sense unless its an AR-15. However, Id like to know how you came to this conclusion. I own an AR15 that looks exactly like this, unless Im missing something
  13. chris posted on 01/18/2013 10:52 AM
    Does anyone here know anything about firearms? Look you don't have to go far to buy an M4 Londero Sport in St Jean sells them for roughly $ 900.00 M4 made by Norinco it’s classified as a restricted firearm. Meaning to own one you need to have a restricted class on your PAL and a member ship at a shooting club. And no center fire semi automatic fire arm firing a rifle cartridge may hold more than 5 rounds and for those firing handgun cartridges it’s a maximum of 10 rounds. There are 2 reasons the M4 is a restricted firearm . The first and utmost reason is that the M4’s build is based on the AR and next is barrel length minimum non restricted barrel length is 18.5 inches and also let’s not forget the RCMP are the ones that decide the classification of a firearm . They have been know to classify a firearm as non restricted only to reclassify the same firearm years later to restricted or prohibited .
  14. TIM posted on 01/18/2013 12:12 PM
    So much disinformation in these comments, even from people who appear to be actual gun owners. First of all, to the guy who said AR's have been banned in Canada since the 80's, that's 100% incorrect. Anyone with an RPAL can simply go online and order one, and it's shipped right to their door step.

    Secondly, this type of firearm is classified as Restricted, and therefore still needs to be registered in ALL of Canada, not just Quebec.

    And to obtain this class of rifle, you need more than just a PAL, you need an RPAL.
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