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Kissing Sailor, or The Selective Blindness of Rape Culture?

Posted By: Ric Peterson · 10/11/2012 8:08:00 AM

Alfred Eisenstaedt’s famous photograph V-J Day in Times Square is infamous to a feminist blogger.  "Leopard" asked the question 'Kissing sailor, or the selective blindness of rape culture?  "Leopard" is upset that media outlets have failed to asknowledge what the woman in the picture said about that day. 

The pair’s identity was positively confirmed earlier this year: The woman, dental nurse Greta Zimmer Friedman and a sailor returning from the Pacific, George Mendonsa. The two were not a couple, and the sailor was drunk. Both are still alive, and 89 years old.

Greata was interviewed by the Library of Congress for the record and said “It wasn’t my choice to be kissed. "The guy just came over and grabbed!”   “I did not see him approaching, and before I knew it, I was in this vice grip,” she told CBS,  noting George’s strength.

Last week, the blogger Leopard chastised media outlets for a “romanticized and glorified” take on the story, despite Greta’s words.

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  1. Jerry O'Donnell posted on 10/11/2012 04:20 PM
    Unfortunately the blogger from the UK who has concluded the kiss was a sexual assault is taking Greta's comments out of context to support her cause. The UK blogger could have contacted Greta (the nurse - actually a dental assistant) to ask her if she felt violated. Greta is very much alive and can address this issue. It very wrong and a great disservice to George and Greta to portray their kiss as sexual assault by drawing a conclusion from a quote taken out of context.

    I have personally heard both George and Greta give their account of the kiss. Both say that it was an impulsive clebratory kiss, not an assault. George didn't ask Greta if he could kiss her, in the excitement of the day, he just did it. That day was a very special day for our country. Half a million lives had been lost. Almost every American had known some one or was related to some one who died. Food, gas, tires, sugar and even ladies nylons were rationed. This day all the killing ended, service men did not have to return to the war, and there was a short time when the releif and euphoria auperceded the rules of deportment. George was on the second date with Rita Petry, who can be seen over the sailors right shoulder. She is now his wife of 67 years. She saw the kiss and said that she thought nothing of it at the time because of the craziness and wild celebration that was going on. The wife of Victor Jorgensen, the photographer who took the photo above was with him at the time and an eye witness to the famous kiss. She described the scene in a letter to her family. ...We were in "Times Square only few minutes after the news was flashed on the Times sign. It was terribly exciting -- service men kissing girls--women openly crying -- horns tooting -- cheering and shouting -- confetti and paper streamers filling the air... " He was walking to the subway station with his date to return to her parents' home where he had spent the night. There is a great read with an accurate account in the book The Kissing Sailor by Larry Verria and George Galdorisi which is published by the U.S. Naval Institute. Greta and George came back to Times Square in 1980 at the invitation of Life Magazine. There is a photo of them reenacting the kiss beneath the Times building marquee which says "It had to be you." George, Greta, and Rita have been friends and in touch since that time. I don't think this would have happened if Greta had perceived the kiss as sexual assault.

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  2. Christine posted on 10/23/2012 01:32 PM
    I wholeheartedly agree Jerry. The blogger builds his case by using quotes that are completely out of context. If you actually read Greta's account of the kiss, it would form a very different picture than the one the blogger suggests. Greta and George and his wife continued to stay in touch after they learned of each others identities.

    I think it's absolutely shameful and irresponsible for someone to publicly announce that what George did is assault by todays's standards. Assault is a criminal offence, should we conclude then that if George did this today it would constitute grounds for arrest? Political correctness it seems has reached pathological proportions.

    Downplaying sexual assault is dangerous, but coming to conclusions that have no basis in fact or context or don't take the people who were actually involved into account is equally as dangerous.
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