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We're banning HOMEWORK!

Posted By: Tommy Schnurmacher · 10/9/2012 11:41:00 AM

More precisely, we want to ban useless homework... because why should kids do school work when they're not in school? It's the focus of a special three-part series that kicks off Wednesday October 10th, and continues through to Friday. We'll hear from teachers, parents, time managment experts, and students themselves, who will debate the issue right here on our airwaves!

What do YOU think about homework? Does it cut into family time? Is it a source of stress and frustration? Leave your comment and help redefine learning for the 21st Century.

THIS WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AT 11AM

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  1. Amy posted on 10/09/2012 12:20 PM
    "We don't have time for a family walk tonight, you have to do your homework!" "No, I can't read you a book tonight, you have to do your homework." "No, I have no time to tuck you in, I have to help your brother with his homework." These are VERY COMMON phrases uttered in my home on any given night. The saddest of them all? "No, you cannot go play outside, you have to do your homework."
    WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO?! I suppose it has come to this because the schools feel a need to keep up with the educational systems of other countries but we are not Chinese or American or whatever country is supposedly ahead of us. Someone has to take a stance for real life education: playing tag, going on a bike ride and, heaven forbid,having family time together. There is no balance anymore.
    1. AlisonP_2352 posted on 10/11/2012 12:54 AM
      @Amy actually, most countries with the highest test scores have little or no homework. It's just us chumps who think piling on the homework enhances learning. Actually, it doesn't help us keep up with anything, exept perhaps childhood obesity levels.
    2. JoAnnD posted on 10/11/2012 03:17 PM
      @Amy We had homework growing up, and we also played outside, went for bike rides etc. Our family time was at the supper table and weekends at the cottage. Absolutely nothing wrong with homework, however it it takes more than 2 hours, then a talk with the teachers/school is in order. I agree with "too" much homework is not good, as a child will become uninterested after a while. But banning homework in general is not reasonable.
  2. Marc Caron posted on 10/10/2012 07:44 AM
    Is this a way to create even lazier kids in the future? And then we wonder why kids grow up thinking they don't need to pay for higher education.
  3. Jeannette posted on 10/10/2012 09:30 AM
    I have 2 children in LBPSB. One in an IB program in High School and the other in the last year of elementry school. When my oldest was in grade 3 she should get home around 3pm have a snack at by 4 pm start her homework, take another break for dinner and then go back till almost 8pm! Almost every night plus projects that were handed out on a monthly basis.
    When I was in school, my parents were immigrants and did not help me. I manged by myself to complete anything alone. Homework was usually a continuation of what was done in class that day.
    I really believe that there is too much pressure on our children to be a lot more responsible and mature before their time. They are not ready and become resentful of school.......what are the drop out rates these days?
  4. Alexander posted on 10/10/2012 11:04 AM
    I've been in the educational field since 1998. While teaching, I found it very useful to tell my students what we had to accomplish that day in order for us not to have homework. Guess what? In the vast majority of cases we were able to get all the work done. By clearly establishing expectations and presenting a logical reason for meeting those expectations we collectively agreed that it would be better to work together than apart. Homework was only given prior to tests/exams and was always predictable and with student success in mind. Classroom atmosphere was respectful, humorous and goal-oriented: we are going to work smart, towards a clearly identifiable goal and we are going to have a good time doing it. I believe the students enjoyed the atmosphere and their results were typically very good.

    I believe that much of the homework given is a result of poor planning, poor execution and/or poor classroom management on behalf of the teacher. Worse still is the "homework as punishment" notion adopted by some of my colleauges.

    Adults need balance in their lives. So do kids. It is unreasonable to expect students to live, breathe and eat "school" all day and dumber still to expect students to focus on one subject at the expense of others.

    Homework can be necessary at times. It is certainly not necessary at all times. Knowing the difference is key....
  5. rookie math teacher (LBPSB) and full time parent posted on 10/10/2012 11:22 AM
    I have an early grade school child and I do feel that the volume of homework is excessive. It must be excessive because parents in my school community pick up their children at 2:30 and refuse all play-dates requests Mondays through Thursdays. The reason cited is always: homework. How sad for children. And Friday playdates are no longer happening after a demoanding week in school because kids are whisked off to karate classes, swimming lessons or private tutoring.

    Which brings me to my next point.

    After spending more than a week fretting over the latest math project (chapter 2 problem bank), I realized something critical: we don't seem to get many notes in primary school math. Maybe our own notes have gone AWOL but to my knowledge, we have received one single page of math notes over the past 5 weeks. That makes homework alot more time-consuming and aggravating. Naturally, the burden falls on me the parent, to patinetly (and competently) figure it all out.

    Math is the one subject where students can use a multitude of approaches and different methods to arrive at the exact same answer.

    So when I assume my role as a parent-tutor each and every night (with extra reading and enrichment time on weekends), I desperately need to see a paper trail of how things are taught in the classroom. Otherwise, I have no insight into the preferred teaching techniques and methodology for early learners. And teachers, bless them, have no extra time to reach out and teach me how to tutor my little learner.

    Now granted, we have been receiving weekly math sheets and most of the homework exercises have been intuitive. And the sheets do have a helpful, albeit brief, sentence for 'at-home help'.

    However, for completing homework like the problem bank assignment, I personally need more background, context, guidance, recommendations...especially for helping a primary school learner to arrive at the right answer. I would be curious know if most other parents have to 'teach' their kids to do word problems or if most kids already magically know all the techniques.

    The Quebec government reform has been in place now for 10 years with an obvious emphasis on critical thinking, cross-competency analysis and situational problems. It's an extremely difficult curriculum for both teachers and students! To make matters worse, teaching word problems is both an art and a science and few have mastered it. Students requires alot of confidence and alot of practice to succeed. As parents, we need access (i.e. notes) to the strategies that can help generate word problem success.

    Unless you have an academically-gifted and independent child, it can sometimes feels like home-schooling as opposed to homework. I have started to use my BlackBerry more to log school due dates, weekly assignments, monthly projects, the nightly reading log in French and in English, weekly dictée, weekly spelling test, library due dates and volunteer commitments...(pause here to breathe), than I do for business appointments. I use my IPad more to create mini math videos than I do for adult leisure. I use my IPod more to project audio books and reading comprehension exercises than I do for hearing my beloved yoga podcasts and Ted Talks. Admittedly, I have become a homework zealot... but only for survival purposes.

    And because I refuse to leave early learning to chance - especially for math competencies. Word problems are going to follow us all the way up to secondary 5. So I have started giving my little student the step-wise strategies required to solve complex word problems. I see the gleam in her eyes when I take all the pressure off of her and funnel the rising anxiety into a tangible set of directions. That relaxed confidence is my reward and my solace for all the extra time I spend on making homework palatable and 'fun'.

    'There is a secret to doing math problems with ease', I tell her. 'And Mommy is happy to share all those secrets with you. That way, you will always have tools and tricks in your back pocket'.

    I provide the same step-wise mathematical approaches in my evening math course because I have noticed that even CEGEP science students grapple with word problems. When something is academically daunting, we should minimize student anxiety by giving more structure and teaching action-oriented strategies.

    Which reminds me of a question which I posted at the top of my new homework blog...where are our math lessons and can I copy anyone's notes from the last 5 weeks?
  6. Alison posted on 10/11/2012 12:50 AM
    Firstly, is it not common sense that a 6-year old should not be saddled with homework? Am I the only one who sees this? My kids go to the local public school, and the homework packages start in grade 1. Can't a 6-year old play a little, please? Plus, since they really can't read much yet, I have to help them quite a lot at this age. Hey! I've already graduated grade 1! I don't need a refresher!
    My biggest beefs with homework for young kids (certainly those under 10):
    1. it teaches them at a young age that the only productive work happens while sitting at a desk. They're already sitting all day. Kids need to move, and we should not be teaching them from age 6 to spend their lives sedentary. I really wonder if homework contrubutes to childhood obesity.
    2. It interferes with family life
    3. It creates friction between parent and child
    4. It actually interferes with REAL learning. I would LOVE to read more with my kids, encourage them to build things, use their imaginations. This is also the prime time in life to develop physical skills such as swimnming and skating. But homework gets in the way
    5. Here's the clincher: read the literature on homework for young kids. By and large, there is NO evidence that it does ANY of the things it is supposed to do (e.g., improve learning, teach discipline and time management). Yet kids are giving up all sorts of fun activities that teach them new skills and get them moving so they can do their homework.
    6. it's become a reflex in the schools: give homework because we've always given homework. Homework is not well thought out. It's just what's done. When my kids' homework involves coloring, I want to throw the book across the room. Really? color stuff in instead of run around outside? for a 6 year old boy who's been sitting all day?
    7. It buys into this unhealthy "crackberry" culture we've developed in which everyone is working all the time to keep up. Keep up with what? iIf the next generation is going to have a balanced, healthy life, we'd better start teaching them about balance NOW.
    There is simply no reason why a little kid can't work all day in school and then come home and do something fun. We are incredibly fortunate not to live in a society where our kids have to go to work in factories at young ages. Instead of turning our kitchen tables into little factories, let's allow them to take advantage of what our weath and privilege has to offer.
    1. JulieW_4 posted on 10/11/2012 02:19 PM
      @Alison It sounds like your complaints are based mostly on the fact you don't want to take the time with your children to do the homework. You may have passed grade 1, but your child needs you to help him do it to. There are too many kids in a class for the teacher to individually help everyone. The teachers need the parental support, but if the only support your giving them is a negative attitude, you're not really helping the teacher or your child.

      It doesn't interfere with family life, it becomes a part of it.

      What friction between parent and child? If they don't understand it, you need to help them. That's your job, you're the parent.. It can be fustrating for you as you think it's simple, but it may not be simple to them. You have to be patient, because if your showing a less than helpful attitude, you might scare the child away from ever asking you help and then what happens? It gets harder and it feels even more overwhelming and suddenly the child is stressed out because he has no one to ask help from.

      Homework and school in general should be looked at it from a positive attitude. If you display a negative/cranky attitude towards homework or school, your children pick up on it and it makes them less excited/encouraged to do a good job and try.

      My kids go to a Billingual school, and they play with their friends, and we hang out together and they play hockey... and I'm okay with homework.
  7. Kay posted on 10/11/2012 11:19 AM
    I meet with the teachers every year to commit to 45 minutes on homework related to marks ONLY.
    Although they think I am not normal to make it clear that our family life will NOT be ruined by their "tough" teacher reputation, I feel that I helped in protecting my daughter from the homework bullying.
    I challenged them to lower marks because of incomplete assignments, so far, I feel my attempts at discouraging homework as a learning tool seem to be respected as I felt the pressure was less because of my interference and her marks did not suffer.
    The parents who feel that pushing a child to do better, is not a parent who has a broad knowledge of what is required to make a good student.
  8. Julie posted on 10/11/2012 01:25 PM
    I enjoy the homework. My son is in Grade 3. When he first started school I sat with him/helped him and showed him how he can study for school. Grade 1 I did again as he was learning to read and I wanted to ensure he had the proper guidance. Grade 2, I stepped back from guiding and observed. I would review the work at the end and was always available for questions. Now that he is in grade 3, he sits at the table (while I do other stuff around the kitchen) does his homework, occassionally just asks if I could test him on his spelling words or if he can read his reader outloud to me.

    I still look over his stuff, but not for corrections (they have to be able to make mistakes to learn from them), but so I know where he's at in school. So I know what he's learning, so I can help him if he needs it and so if the opportunity arises I can show him some real-life scenarios as to how it relates to what he's learning. Without homework, I wouldn't know what he's doing and I wouldn't understand some questions he's talking about.

    Generally the teachers don't assign homework due for the next day, they want it back in a week or so. It can be stretched out over days. If your child is taking hours a day on homework, that might be a sign that they're struggling. That they need help.. but how would you know that or be able to get them help if there was no homework and you didn't know...
  9. JoAnnD posted on 10/11/2012 03:12 PM
    No I don't think homework should be banned, I think it is an excellent way to find out if kids were a) paying attention during class and b) understood what was taught during class. We, growing up had homework and we were not deprived of our childhood, our parents did not suffer because of our homework, then again my Mom chose not to work while we were young and so she had the time to sit with us if we needed her. I think this is what is frustrating most parents today is that they choose to work while their kids are in elementary phase - not having the time to spend with the kids so they blame the school system. You can't have it both ways.
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