Ottawa tells Quebec no tolls, no new Champlain Bridge

Just days after Ottawa announced a new timeline to build a new Champlain Bridge, the Premier and Prime Minister had a face to face meeting to talk about the massive construction project.

Quebec is pushing to work alongside the federal government to get the project rolling, something Ottawa is considering but Federal Infrastructure Minister Denis Lebel says there is no question of re-opening the debate over tolls - a position Quebec isn't happy about.

As for transferring responsibility for the bridge to the province, Lebel said it's up for discussion, just not now.

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  1. A. B. See. posted on 12/03/2013 11:26 PM
    Back in the Forties and Fifties many of the bridges were toll. Pont Jacques Cartier and Victoria. Mercier was once toll AND so was Pont Champlain!

    It was 25 cents a car in the Sixties.

    Then the tolls were gone.

    Had all the money lost @ 25 cents a car been collected and put towards a fund for repairs and replacement of area bridges and infrastructure, it would help a long way to the cost.

    This is just the beginning.

    Pont Jacques Cartier is aging. Pont Mercier is falling apart.

    Blah, Blah, Blah.

    Wake up and smell the coffee!!

    Another 'bonus' is those who USE the bridges pay for them rather than those who do not drive, and walk, bicycle or use transit.

    I have not crossed Pont Champlain since 1985 or so.

    Thank You.
    1. JC Lavoie posted on 12/04/2013 04:17 PM
      @A. B. See. Actually, when the toll was removed from the bridges in Montreal it was replaced by a special tax on gas. Nobody knows how much that accounts everywhere and where is it spent.

      Every Canadian is paying for subsidies in the Alberta Oil industry. Every Canadian should pay for the Champlain Bridge
  2. Kari posted on 12/03/2013 11:42 PM
    Well well, all of a sudden Quebec is " pushing to work along side the federal government ".
    Maybe their hesitation to work along side with Quebec should open the eyes of our wonderful PQ government.
    Just a taste of what an independent Quebec would be like.
    We sink further and further with this government.
  3. What did i say? posted on 12/04/2013 01:57 AM
    I knew this was not going to come for free?
    Like always, put the burden on the civilians.
    1. JoeN posted on 12/04/2013 02:38 PM
      @What did i say? No, put the burden on the users. You pay if you use it, regardless of where you live. Stop your whineing!!!
  4. clint posted on 12/04/2013 06:31 AM
    If the Feds insist on tolls then agree......for a percentage to go to Montreal.
  5. Walter posted on 12/04/2013 06:49 AM
    Like usual....We have people who think we are children, running our Country.
    Have to vote these clowns out!!!!
    Explain to people WHY thing should be. NOT....Tell us how it is going to be and that's it. They(Federal Government) built a crappy bridge to begin with. Where money has been being spend so it won't fall down.
    Not they say "no toll or no bridge" There were tolls on the last bridge and guess what??? In didn't even last half the time it should have.
    We all know that toll money will NEVER GO TO BRIDGES. It never does and never will.

    You want to use the bridge...Use some sort of "pass" system. No need to pay million of dollars for labor to run the bridge. We do have PHOTO RADAR NOW.
    So then, the price could be low enough that everyone, anyone wouldn't mind buying a pass, even people who don't use the bridge everyday. Just one idea of many I'm sure people can come up with.
    Wake up and smell the coffee!!!
  6. JD posted on 12/04/2013 07:02 AM
    Honestly, I think every bridge leading onto the city should have a toll. Why should visitors who don't live in Quebec get free access? Also, if the tolls are properly managed just think how much money would be there for maintenance. Every take a road trip to NYC....its over 10$ to cross the George Washington bridge, and we are all freaking out over a what.....1.50$ toll.....maybe 3$? If that amount is really going to break your transport budget, then maybe its time to look into public transit.
    1. _Susan_ posted on 12/04/2013 07:40 AM
      @JD Why should visitors get free access? Because they are coming over to spend their money and boost your economy!

      Do you not want visitors to buy gas, eat at restaurants, spend money in boutiques, ski hills etc?
  7. LMAO posted on 12/04/2013 07:46 AM
    The Montreal area motorists have been gouged for years now with MTS subsidies and it's time that those who use the bridge can support it's upkeep with a toll whatever that cost amount is decided on. The toll should be kept by the Feds and the bridge maintained by the Feds so the fund it is kept just for the bridge's maintenance costs and not included in the Provinces coffers. The annual amounts collected should be posted publicly and after the bridge is paid for the cost can be reduced to an amount that reflects the historical maintenance of the new structure.
    Bridges are paid for by tolls all over the world and guess what the world still turns and people pay them and realize the benefits. As for the Province being involved in the construction that sends shivers down the spine - look at the disasters around town and the unfinished projects that litter Montreal and it's surrounding areas.
  8. Robert posted on 12/04/2013 10:24 AM
    I am amazed how idiots write on here and say how they like more tolls to pay for bridges. Do you not know that the taxes that we pay are supposed to go for Quebec infrastructure. But instead, they put them everywhere else to pay for social programs that we do not have money for, and then you people come out and say, yes, tax me more. Do you not realize that the new money from these tolls will not be placed for what they say it is meant for. We do not need more taxes, what we need is better MANAGEMENT of the money that is coming into the Quebec gouvernement
    1. Michael posted on 12/08/2013 07:07 PM
      @Robert The Champlain Bridge is federal responsibility. You don't have to worry about the PQ squandering it. The feds will likely use it to pay down the cost of the bridge.
  9. Joe posted on 12/04/2013 12:18 PM
    All this bickering amongst us will lead all the same result. This province's demise has one common denominator. The PQ first election win in the seventies. That election put us one the road to where we are now. A world class city with a 3rd class medical system, 3rd class infrastructure, 3rd class transit system and so on. This place must be the only place in the world that collects billions in taxes and lottery money, tax revenue, and still took 40 years to make a beltway around Montreal aka Highway 30 and various other projects. Liberal governments try to help us to a point (having to bend a little for the French population) by making Quebec welcome and inviting to investment, then the racists win and we go back to square one because they do the reverse.The solution is with the voters to get rid of all things that make this province one of the worst in Canada, toss out the PQ, and start making this province the best place to be in Canada which it should be.
    Until then we will continue to flounder as a have not province waiting for our yearly handout from the have provinces.
    And yes tolls are needed on all bridges, provided the money is used for upkeep, so it should collected by a non government group and monitored in a way that there is transparency and liability to the people doing this job.
  10. Drew posted on 12/05/2013 12:39 AM
    I got a better idea ! Let the Federal Government build the bridge then give it to Quebec as a gift. The devil clause is Quebec maintains it all year round and no more funds for this bridge will be given from the Federal Government. Lets see how fast the Quebec Government places a toll on the bridge.All they will see is a cash cow and 25 years from now we will need a new bridge because all the tolls collected will no go to up keep of the bridge.
  11. Roger posted on 12/05/2013 03:51 PM
    Why didn't they build a tunnel instead? All the studies showed it is cleanest, easiest to maintain, cheapest to build, easiest to adapt a metro line, etc, etc.....and yet they go with another monstrosity! There is something really wrong with our governments. And to top it all off, Quebec wants to run it? Aw gawd!
  12. View from the West posted on 12/06/2013 12:46 PM
    Funny how you Quebecers voted en mass for your beloved Jack Layton Party in the last federal election. We in the west were perplexed how a majority NDP candidates with no experience were voted into office. Hell, you were voting for candidates that you had never seen or heard of! La Belle Province was sticking its middle finger at the conservatives and the Federal gov't in general.

    Now you silly Quebecois are asking (no demanding) federal funds for your new precious bridge.

    If I was Harper, I would tell you to pound sand and deal with your crumbling infrastructure by yourself.
    1. sam posted on 12/09/2013 08:13 PM
      @View from the West Umm, first of all , I don't think anyone really cares what a view from the west is. Perhaps you should keep your views in the west.
      What our joke of a government is doing really has us all baffled and confused and worried but I do no think you have any rights to refer to us as silly quebecois.
      I think that you should really think about how you speak and offer an opinion before offering it.
      Perhaps all that "west" is affecting you.
  13. lou posted on 12/07/2013 10:15 AM
    There shouldn't be any tolls. The simple fact is that car owners and drivers contribute billions of dollars more in revenue than the Provincial and Federal governments spend on roads and associated infrastructure. These billions come from Gas taxes, taxes on insurance car repairs, car care products, license fees, driver license fee's etc. etc.
    This revenue differential is redirected towards, public transit, health care and general accounts.
    The revenue should be reinvested and this bridge along with the 407 and others should be toll free!

    Perhaps they should charge a toll on MUCTC users instead. Drivers are tired of funding everything!
  14. But of course posted on 01/16/2014 11:06 AM
    But of course, the users should pay. It's like that everywhere. If you go on a trip and fly you pay. PQ doesn't want anything with Canada, has no use for Canada, wants to separate but wants to rep all the benefits. Typical attitude, a sense of entitlement.
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