Firefighters union says city removing stickers is safety hazard

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The city has begun cleaning the union stickers off of its fire trucks but the firefighters union is warning that the effort is a waste of money and a safety hazard. 

Since last week Mayor Denis Coderre has been ordering the removal of the red stickers that the unions created to protest the proposed pension plan bill.

But the firefighters union says the cleaning is a waste of time because they just put the stickers back up.

Spokesperson Chris Ross says it's also dangerous because while the trucks are being cleaned they're out of service.

“Putting fire trucks out of service puts the public in danger, something they’re always saying, oh the unions pressure tactics might do that, and here they are taking stickers off that they could have easily left on, and for 90 minutes the trucks are out of service.”

Ross says the stickers are legal and the city shouldn't be removing them.

“It’s freedom of expression, we’ve won in the past that we’re allowed to use stickers, that it’s not illegal, so it’s something that we are going to continue to do.  They know it’s the only visibility option that we have.”

But Coderre says it's unacceptable that the stickers be put on trucks paid for by taxpayers.

He says the unions will be paying the cleaning bill.

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  1. LMAO posted on 07/30/2014 02:54 PM
    They should be fined for defacing public property and charged for the removal of the stickers because this is now got too ridiculous. Their pensions are not in danger, they are just being asked to contribute to them instead. It is immoral that they should expect people who do not have any pension should be responsible for topping up their funds. Those who do not want to contribute the difference should be offered a lesser pension instead. Alternatively they could resign and find a job in the private sector with the equivalent pension benefits (good luck with that).

    On a brighter note it seems we the general working population have two choices:
    1) We demand the same pension plan from the government.
    2) As we are contributing to their pension plan, maybe they should also make a contribution to theirs - seem only fair.
    1. Richard posted on 08/01/2014 08:16 AM
      @LMAO You really don't understand the issue
      Yes their pension is in danger
      Yes they already make contributions to it

      The city wants to cut their pensons
      They want to remove indexation
      They want the worker to pay tens of thousands in back contibutions

      The city agreed to these conditions under the current CBA but now they want to go back on it...What gives them the right to do so? Nothing!

      You want to make changes fine...but you negotiate them when the current CBA don't change the one you signed and agreed too
  2. Jonathan posted on 07/30/2014 02:54 PM
    Taking the publically owned and maintained fire trucks out of service is *potentially* a danger to the public. If only there was a way to avoidi the vandalism that placed these stickers there in the first place... Maybe the fire department can comment on how the acts of vandalism took place. It is my understanding that these emergency vehicles be placed in a secured environment.

    I would like to know what judge has permitted vandalism as an act of freedom of expression.

    I also would have plenty of stickers to place on emergency vehicles to express my feelings about the situation.
  3. Marguerite posted on 07/30/2014 02:55 PM
    Let us get this straight. The mayor is not putting the city at risk by having the stickers removed it is the unions that are as they are the ones who put them there. As for freedom of expression yes the stickers may be legal but I am sure it is not legal to put on public property. How would Mr. Ross feel is someone put stickers all over his car and stood in front of him and said this is my freedom of expression. I believe he would be calling the cops. Oh wait maybe the cops would not show up as they are wasting time putting stickers on public property. I for one am happy that the mayor is standing his ground!!!!!!!!!!
  4. Jeff posted on 07/30/2014 03:05 PM
    The "stickering" of city vehicles should be considered an act of vandalism, and the unions should be ticketed for each vehicle stickered and re-stickered, and should also pay the costs od removal. Any other de-facing of public property is treated the same way, this should be no different.
    1. Richard posted on 07/30/2014 09:34 PM
      @Jeff Sure the cops should be handing out tickets....oh wait the cops are being screwed over by the mayor just like the firemen are....

      And how do you ticket the union? The union didn't put the stickers on....

      The mayor can make all the changes he wants when the current CBA expires....Trying to make change before just shows what a garbage mayor he is

      Funny how the public was appealed when the firemen were not allowed to paint the windows of the fire stations with go habs go a few years ago.

      saying one is ok and the other is not is pure hypocrisy
  5. Mike d posted on 07/30/2014 04:05 PM
    Is this a joke. Who do the union people take us for?? I would FIRE ( pardon the pun ) the whole station house. I don't care who put the stickers on. I would also sue them for every cent to reprint all the trucks and cut your GREAT Pensions. Let the citizens vote on reformed pensions.
    1. Richrd posted on 07/30/2014 09:27 PM
      @Mike d OK Good Idea!
      At the same time we can vote on 7$ a day daycare and cheap tuition, and family leave....Then we can add voting on all the taxes for public transit....Sure let vote on all the things where my tax dollar benefits you!
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