Côte-St-Luc woman claims police railroaded her into $76 ticket

A 34-year-old Côte-St-Luc woman says she was railroaded into a $76 ticket for being in a public park after closing hours by two Montreal police officers she claims were rude and abusive.

Lindsay Rockbrand told CJAD 800 News she was enjoying a warm summer night on a park bench in Hampstead not far from her home about two weeks ago when two female police officers got out of their cruiser to ask her what she was doing and demanded i.d., saying she wasn't allowed to be there. The park is actually an island of green space in front of Holtham Street and Holtham Place.

Rockbrand said she wasn't told why and tried to leave, saying she didn't know about any bylaw forbidding her from being there. Rockbrand said the officers then stopped her and held her tightly by the arms, threatening to handcuff her.

Rockbrand accuses the officers of stalling and looking for a reason to ticket her. She claims the officers arrived as she was on the bench at least ten minutes before 11 pm and by the time she got the ticket, it was nearly ten minutes after 11, in violation of the municipal park bylaw. Rockbrand said she asked them why she was being treated like this.

"(One of the officers) looked at me with really serious eyes and said, 'Yeah? Well, you're the one treating us like shit,' " Rockbrand said.

Montreal police spokesman Laurent Gingras said they can't comment on specific tickets but that officers are supposed to state the reason for detaining you and then ask for i.d.

"They will proceed to ask for your name and identify yourself and following the investigation they will either issue you a ticket or give you a warning, or act accordingly in other cases, such as an arrest warrant," Gingras said.

"Anyone who would like to contest the ticket has 30 days to do so."

Rockbrand said she will.

"It was really just abrasive and rude and treating me like I was nothing, like I had no rights."

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  1. Dan posted on 08/26/2014 04:06 PM
    More typical behavior by swaggering, drunk-with-power Montreal cops, especially the female ones who seem to always have a big chip on their shoulder. Was this woman selling crack or merely enjoying a nice evening? Cops seem unable to differentiate between the two. This is one of the many reasons why I don't live in Montreal any more.
  2. Scott posted on 08/26/2014 04:23 PM
    And why they dont ticket the homeless in all the downtown parks after hours?..Simple..they cant PAY!
  3. alex posted on 08/26/2014 07:15 PM
    wow, another cop on a power trip and treating people like garbage.


    why is this considered news??
  4. Pat posted on 08/26/2014 10:21 PM
    Another disheartening story illustrating the us against them bully attitude police seem to be getting. Poor judgement again by police.
  5. Juge posted on 08/27/2014 08:24 AM
    $76 for sitting peacefully on a park bench.
    $60 for leaving a child alone in a sweltering car.
    HUH?
  6. Enzo posted on 08/27/2014 10:51 AM
    Just as people are quick to jump all over the Police and assume they were wrong, without knowing any of the facts, so I will do the same from the other side of this.

    The article says that the police asked for ID and told her she was not permitted to be there, aftr which she got up and tried to leave. HEY, if asked for ID you ARE REQUIRED BY LAW to provide it. Remember, at this point she had already been told, by her own admission, why she as being questioned. In trying to leave I am certain she refused to provide identification (she never said she had done so).

    Disobeying the first command a police officer gives you is a good way to annoy them. So why is all of this the fault of the Police? DO AS YOU ARE ASKED, the law (asking for ID) is on their side, and none of the other events (alleged abuse, etc) would have happened
    1. joeN posted on 08/27/2014 03:30 PM
      @Enzo You missed the point that she was there prior to closing time and rather than come off as arrogant cops, they could have easily informed her that at closing time she would have to leave rather than go off on a power trip and the ticket book.There would not have been an issue. Muscle heads who couldn`t make it the business world end up either being a cop, fireman, or bouncers at clubs. Which one are you Enzo?
    2. CCACI posted on 08/27/2014 05:13 PM
      @Enzo Correction on your by-law ruling to REQUIRED show I.D. when asked there Enzo.... You don't have to show I.D. unless stopped for a violation of any kind. The police don't explain that to no one as they do as seemed right for themselves. Most humans don't know the laws as some do. Again ..you don't have to show your I.D. unless probable cause. Don't let your judgement over ride your sayings before looking at by-laws.It is under the human rights act..look it up . Have a good day.
  7. ????? posted on 08/27/2014 01:16 PM
    if it was 10 minutes before why did they need to question her.
    Did she have id? If it is a public park why was she not allowed to be there?
    If she was not allowed to be there why was there no posting?
    An arrest warrant for sitting in the park.
    If they don"t notify you of why you are being detained isn't that the same as kidnapping?


    Treating "them" bad is reason enough to be harassed by the Police?

    This article need more info.

    Either way it looks like MTL is becoming a militia state.
  8. Will Super posted on 08/27/2014 08:46 PM
    Let's all start a petition to extend the opening hours of our public parks. I'll be starting to go door to door for signatures and also create a website. We pay crazy amount of taxes, yet we can't enjoy our public spaces - we MUST DO SOMETHING!

    Anyway, some cops are easy going, some aren't. Unfortunately they have a quota of tickets to give. And when they don't reach it at the end of the month, they can be grumpy.

    Another remark: People think cops know the law, but they don't know jack. Only lawyers know the law.
  9. Toto posted on 08/28/2014 06:04 AM
    Anyways Canadaa has already become a Police State and the rest of the cities

    in this nation.
    Cops are not helpful for people anymore they are useless I personally think that they are troublemakers and they are there to screw us over for the money and control
    They are Beyond belief Moneygrabbers This is only the beginning it will get worse if we don't wake up to the system.

    Prepare for the worse to happen.............
  10. Rick posted on 08/28/2014 01:21 PM
    Just once, I would like to read a story of how a Police officer or Fireman saved a life by administering CPR to an accident victim. How about some positive news for a change? I know is that an officer asks me for ID, I will comply and ask "Is there something wrong officer?" A woman sitting alone in a park late at night is suspicious..
  11. Kari posted on 08/28/2014 03:52 PM
    Remind me next time I want to enjoy sitting in a park to bring an alarm clock, my passport oh, and a witness.
    You never know when you might need them
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