Third referendum won't happen until 2023: Drainville

Ex-minister on different planet, Liberal minister Coiteux says


Bernard Drainville continues to float trial balloons ahead of the upcoming Parti Québécois leadership race.

In a new blog post entitled "Independence 2025", the one-time architect of the failed Charter of Values sets out a 10-year plan for achieving independence for Quebec.

He says the PQ should hold off on holding a referendum in its first mandate — provided it wins a majority government in the next election scheduled for 2018.

Until then, he says, the party should spend its time in opposition to reflect on and renew their independence project — in particular, by reaching out to young people, who massively turned their backs on the PQ during the last election, dropping behind even Québec Solidaire in some polls.

The following four years from 2018 to 2022 in Drainville's victory scenario would be devoted to preparing the groundwork for independence. The 2022 campaign would see the PQ asking for a mandate to hold a new referendum in 2023 — this time, though, with a clear question, along the lines of "do you want Quebec to remain a province within Canada or become an independent country?"

"The more we're prepared, the more Quebecers will have confidence and will be more susceptible to want and to support independence," Drainville writes.

On a different planet?

In response, Liberal minister Martin Coiteux is suggesting Drainville is on a different planet.

"I hope Mister Drainville is on the same planet Quebec as everyone else," he says.

"We would have had a $5 billion deficit and here's someone talking about using public funds to build up an option that the population massively rejected at the last election."

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  1. Wayne posted on 09/03/2014 04:37 PM
    This man is sick, he needs really to see a Doctor
    1. Kari posted on 09/07/2014 11:32 PM
      @Wayne I agree Wayne, but its just so difficult to FIND a doctor these days. Thats why people like Drainville are sick.
  2. clint posted on 09/03/2014 04:52 PM
    Ummmm ya think you could push that to 2024.....2023 just isn't happening for me.
  3. Eric posted on 09/03/2014 05:10 PM
    Hopefully the PQ will be long gone and history by then! Enough damage caused already!
  4. Joe posted on 09/03/2014 05:49 PM
    Like I said before isn't the comedy festival over, guess not this guy keeps me laughing from the rubbish that comes out of his mouth.
  5. Joseph posted on 09/03/2014 06:06 PM
    They just won't give up.
  6. bill posted on 09/03/2014 06:20 PM
    PQ: Permanent Queazy
  7. Kent Tyson posted on 09/03/2014 11:34 PM
    This guy is a complete fool. No more foolish than the others running for the PQ leadership, but a fool nevertheless. Quebec has been in decline every time the PQ has been in power and yet they still don't get it. A self centered bunch of zealots who really don't care about the province or the people but just about themselves! When I think of the many companies who have left or ones who decided NOT to set up here, it sickens me. Of course there are the many friends who also chose to leave and never came back. And then they have the nerve to say they want the youth back who voted against them in the last election. I think the youth are way too smart to be fooled by these idiots. And yes - idiots are exactly what they are! Living in probably what is the best country in the world and not appreciating it. I sincerely hope they all die off - allowing us never to hear their stupid opinions and views again!!!
  8. wluis posted on 09/04/2014 07:01 AM
    The separatists will never realize what they have done to Quebec.
    We are like the Montreal Expos of the past: We produce the best players, so they can leave for better money. Why? Because we don't generate enough attendance to pay the bills.
  9. Mark posted on 09/04/2014 07:37 AM
    I really don't understand what planet or world this guy thinks he lives in. What I really don't understand is why they think this cram it down their throat approach is a good strategy. WAKE UP! You want an independent Quebec, start with good governance. Stop wasting tax payer money on stupid programs, language laws, and religious bills. Put together a plan to wipe out corruption and provide good infrastructure to ALL of Quebec. Start chipping away and eliminating the massive debt here in Quebec. Provide jobs and services to not just the Francophone population but to the Allophone and Anglophone community as well. Show us you can run a province with good governance that will bring peace, harmony, and a better way of life for everyone. If you can do this not only with you have a strong province but maybe, MAYBE, people will start to believe Quebec can and will be stronger as an independent state. So Mr. Blainville, stop your wasting your time, our time, and especially our money because we are sick of this topic while the province crumbles at our feet.
    1. Adam posted on 09/06/2014 02:30 PM
      @Mark Hate to remind you Mark, but our "friends" the Liberals gave us the language laws.
  10. More BS posted on 09/04/2014 07:51 AM
    "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity."
    Albert Einstein
  11. markR posted on 09/04/2014 09:27 AM
    Sounds like a broken record. This guy just doesn't get it, the voter's have said it repeatedly, we are not interested in separation whatever form or tactic the PQ undertakes. With all the money lost on investments that have left this province because of the PQ's mismanaged priorities, he now wants us to buy his plan to promote, brainwash, and force the separation mantra using taxpayer's money during their 1st mandate if they get a 1st mandate in the next provincial election. Drainville and the PQ have lost touch with reality, the younger generation is more educated, connected than the older generation that ate this garbage of separation. They, will move on from the PQ and focus on the new reality of Quebec, fixing it and making it work within Canada.
  12. Kat posted on 09/04/2014 02:00 PM
    Didn't they know since 2004 that separation wouldn't fly?

    They had 40 years I think that WAS more than enough time to prepare.
  13. Cyberdude posted on 09/04/2014 03:13 PM
    "The following four years from 2018 to 2022 in Drainville's victory scenario would be devoted to preparing the groundwork for independence."

    Exactly what have these brilliant Quebec separatists been doing since the creation of their party in 1968? Practicing for the practice?
  14. Steve posted on 09/04/2014 11:20 PM
    What youth vote? Any young person who can speak English and wants better opportunities is leaving this backwater of a province.The only youth vote left will be the unilingual prisoners they (PQ) created!
  15. More BS posted on 09/07/2014 08:07 AM
    He also promised that the 15th referendum would not come before 2223.
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